Carpenter (CAR)

Second Period Package (33 Modules) Comments

Date: 6/2/2021 4:14:59 PM
Module: 020201bB
Version: 10
Page: 12
Comment: The note on the image tells the viewer to chalk a line 150mm back from floor edge. I believe this should read 140mm back, so the ext. sheathing will be flush with the floor frame ext. sheathing. Students are taught that the foundation dimensions shown on the plan are the wall frame dimensions, and sheathing is applied outside of that.
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:21:59 PM
Module: 020201bB
Version: 10.1
Page: 25 and 26
Comment: pages 25 and 26 - Table repeated - should be just once and all on one page - title can change to just NBC without the year.
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:42:33 PM
Module: 020201c
Version: 21
Page: 15, 16, 17
Comment: Page 15 - NBC Span Codes reference is from older version of NBC. Says Table A-3 , should read Table 9.23.4.2.-C as per NBC 2015 Pages 16 &17 - Graphics of tables for ceiling joist spans are from older version of NBC, should be replaced with latest version for consistency
Status: Update in Progress

Date: 6/2/2021 4:09:56 PM
Module: 020201d
Version: 21.0
Page: 25
Comment: “As with the air barriers, care must be taken to ensure that the vapour barrier is a continuous seal throughout the building” The word seal should be removed, because vapour barriers do not need to be sealed in the same manner air barriers do. Probably a result of confusion between Air/Vapour barriers because we use poly for both. But, in a rigid air barrier, such as airtight drywall approach (ADA), a poly vapour barrier only needs to be lapped not sealed with tape or acoustical seal (pp 28 020204h Insulation and Air Barriers)
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:12:42 PM
Module: 020202aB
Version: 8.1
Page: 37
Comment: Re: Figure 67 and NOTE box above. Graphic is labelled incorrectly. Intersection of theoretical line at ridge should be labeled "Total rise working point" The point above may then be labeled "total rise working point + WAP" or don't label at all. Note box should read something like "total rise of roof is the intersection of theoretical working lines at ridge."
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:20:29 PM
Module: 020203aA
Version: 7.0
Page: 14
Comment: Figure 21 - Window Symbols - top right image - change label to "Single Hung" and shorten arrow to just be in bottom half of window shown. (NOTE: 1st year BP module with similar graphic may also be labelled wrong)
Status: Implemented

Date: 10/30/2019 10:11:49 AM
Module: 020203aC
Version: 4
Page: 28
Comment: When milling a door for a latchbolt, the module describes the order of operations as : latchbolt hole drilled first, and then the cylinder hole is drilled. This should be reversed because if the cylinder is drilled first, then the carpenter knows when to stop while drilling for the latchbolt. Some cylinder brands even require drilling a small distance beyond the cylinder for the latch bolt. It would be difficult to achieve this accuracy if drilling for the latch first.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/2/2021 4:19:47 PM
Module: 020203aC
Version: 5.0
Page: 7
Comment: Figure 7 - right hand bubble - remove "Inside View" text - it is confusing students that it is on the inside of the door rather the weatherstripping behind the false corners on the exterior as intended.
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:19:58 PM
Module: 020203aC
Version: 5
Page: 16
Comment: Table 3 - (2.5 inches x 25.4 = 63.5 mm) - replace "62" mm with "64" mm in both places
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:19:23 PM
Module: 020203bB
Version: 8.0
Page: multiple
Comment: Page 5 – end of first paragraph – “tin snips” should be “aviation snips” – Figure 4 caption change also to “Aviation snips.” Page 6 – Figure 7 – Flashing should show an end dam. Page 7 – Figure 8 – should show flashing with end dams and 2 ways to do j-channel around end dams.
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:17:26 PM
Module: 020203c
Version: 7.0
Page: 29
Comment: Page 29 – Crickets and Saddles – sentence 1 – to match new code wording should read: “….., when it is greater than 750 mm (30”) wide …….” And sentence 2 – 8th word – change “desired” to “required” Figure 39 – bottom label in graphic – “750 mm (30”) and Wider” needs to change to “Wider than 750 mm (30”)” Figure 40 – bottom label in graphic – “Under 750 mm (30”) Wide” needs to change to “750 mm (30”) and Under”
Status: Implemented

Date: 12/2/2019 8:12:18 AM
Module: 020204aB
Version: 22
Page: 55-57
Comment: "Answer to Practice L Stair Calculations" starts out with correct unit of rise being at 181.9mm in step one. In the equation for step 2, it has been calculated using 181.7 mm which is incorrect and the following steps need to be recalculated as this error affects most of the answers for the remainder of the math problem.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/2/2021 4:23:05 PM
Module: 020205a
Version: 21
Page: 18
Comment: page 18 - figure 24 - change the stair unit run numbers in the graphic to match the new building code (change "240" to "255" in 4 places)
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:15:43 PM
Module: 020205bB
Version: 8.1
Page: 38
Comment: Self test answers: Question 18 Should read "...760x2030x35..."
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:15:54 PM
Module: 020205bB
Version: 8.1
Page: 9
Comment: Self test answers: Question 1 Should read "...go to sheet 1..."
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:18:42 PM
Module: 020205bB
Version: 8.1
Page: 38 and 39
Comment: Page 38 - question 18 - change "45" to "35" (this has been modified on the Castilian Plan and this needs to change to match) Page 39 - Step 2 - Figure 44 - in the highlighted bubble in the door schedule also change "45" to "35" to match the current Castilian Plan
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:19:10 PM
Module: 020205bB
Version: 8.1
Page: 30 and 31
Comment: page 30 - 2nd bullet - change "umn" to "um" page 31 - figure 34 - in bubble - 2nd bullet - change "umn" to "um" (manufacturers designation - things that make you go um....)
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:18:30 PM
Module: 020205c
Version: 6.0
Page: multiple
Comment: Page 2 - figure 1 - update to picture of current code covers - change caption to "NBC and NBC-Alberta Edition" Page 3 - Figure 2- update to current code - electronic and paper copy Page 4 - note box - first sentence - should read; “Division B of the NBC is titled “Acceptable Solutions” and contains approved current minimum standards for all 9 parts of the building code related construction processes in addition to Climatic, Seismic and Fire Performance information.” Page 10 – the information for Appendix A no longer exists – change heading to “Notes to Part 9 – Housing and Small Buildings” the first sentence should read: “Notes to Part 9 contains explanatory information to assist code users in understanding the intent of the requirements contained in Part 9.” The picture in Figure 13 should be changed to show the title at the top of the code page like the previous ones do and the caption should change to “Notes to Part 9” Appendix B no longer exists and can be omitted. Page 15 – Illustrated guide graphic should be updated to the current one. Page 16 and 17 - figure 22, 23 and 24 - update to current Page 19 – figure 25 and 26 – needs updated to current code – doors is now 9.7 etc. Page 27 - Table 7 - first line of heading - change "A-1" to "9.23.4.2-A" Page 31 and 32 - remove 2005 from headings of tables 12, 13 and 14. (and other places as needed) Page 32 - Table 15 - change caption and first row of table to "Table 9.23.4.2-G" and remove "2005" from heading. Page 33 - below first paragraph after Figure 31 - add a "Note Box" with the following: "Very rarely are you required to calculate the Specified Snow Load - Always contact the Local Authority for the appropriate Specified snow Load for the area you are building in." Page 38 - Bullet 2. - change 2.98 to 2.08 Page 38 - table 20 - change caption and first line of table to - "Table 9.23.4.2-G" and remove 2005 from heading. Page 44 - question 15 - Change "Red Deer Alberta" to "an area with 1.5 kPa Specified Snow Load"
Status: Declined

Date: 6/2/2021 4:22:47 PM
Module: 020205c
Version: 21
Page: 40 and 43
Comment: Page 40 - question 11 - needs to update to new stair code Page 43 - answer to 11 - update to new stair code.
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/3/2021 3:35:25 PM
Module: 020205c
Version: 21
Page: 22
Comment: page 22 - code article box - change "9.15.3.8" to "9.15.3.9" to match correct text above the box
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:13:58 PM
Module: 020205e
Version: 6.1
Page: 9
Comment: In the Ceiling Framing Calculation module on the page 9, step 8 for Calculating ceiling framing material for Hip Roofs. The method of calculating material for stub joist seems flawed. Stub joist material should be calculated similar to stakes and cleats in first period where you first determine how many stub joist you can get from each piece of material rather than a total length of stub material required. This error in calculation can be seen in question 2 of the self-test on page 26. 30 stub joist are required and the answer is 7 pieces of 12 foot material. Being the stub joist are 32" long, you can only get 4 joist per 12 foot piece of material and the answer should be 8.
Status: Implemented

Date: 6/2/2021 4:42:49 PM
Module: 020205e
Version: 21
Page: 2, 3, 6, 9, 11, 14, 16, 20, 23, 25, 28,
Comment: References to NBC Table A-3 is outdated. Should read Table 9.23.4.2.-C
Status: Update in Progress

Date: 6/2/2021 4:20:41 PM
Module: 020205f
Version: 9.0
Page: 28
Comment: page 28 - table 32 - step 2 change "hip" to "common"
Status: Implemented

Date: 2/19/2021 9:20:16 AM
Module: 020205g
Version: 21
Page: 8, 9, 10, 31
Comment: Can we add clarity to the eave lookout calculation? If we add up all the horizontal sections, divide by on centre spacings, then round up we are potentially missing at least 3 pieces for a hip roof by not enclosing the space on each side of the building. By calculating each side separately would match the lookouts shown in figures 4 and 5 on pg 8
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/2/2021 4:20:53 PM
Module: 020205g
Version: 8.0
Page: 12
Comment: the gable area calculation needs to be re-worded so that it does not include overhang. and the graphic in figure 8 should be adjusted to reflect this change also - any calculations farther in the module should be adjusted as needed to match this change.
Status: Declined


Archived Comments


Module: 020204aA
Version: 8
Page: 5
Comment: In the first sentence, it states that the National Building Code sets a minimum unit run as 210mm for private stairs. In the 2015 National Building Code in Table 9.8.4.2. it states a minimum unit run for private stairs as 255 mm. My question is, in the Apprenticeship exam for Level 2 carpentry, which figure is used? Would it be possible in the future, to specify which version of the NBC is being used in the modules because some of the information seems to have been updated while other has not which is cause for confusion. Thank you.
Status: Implemented


Module: 020204aA
Version: 8
Page: 53
Comment: self test questions are numbered incorrectly missed #21
Status: Implemented