Steamfitter - Pipefitter (SFP)

First Period Package (42 Modules) Comments

Date: 5/31/2019 11:16:51 PM
Module: 070102b
Version: 7.2
Page: 24
Comment: Under the heading "Metallic Ring Gaskets" the section "Combination type metallic ring gaskets include the trade name Flexatallic..." refers to a spiral wound or flat ring gasket as defined on Section 5 page 235 of the IPT's Pipe Trades Handbook not a metallic ring gasket.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/5/2019 12:18:01 PM
Module: 210101d
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: I have the following questions/comments: 1) Doesn't module standards require a Self-Test in every module? This module doesn't have a Self-Test. 2) The answers for Objective Five Exercise on page 35 are missing for questions 3 and 4 (from page 29). 3) The questions for Objective Six Exercise on page 33 are numbered incorrectly (number 2 is missing). P.S. In this ILM comment web form, for trade SFP, the pull-down list for "TRADE PERIOD", only has options for years 1, 2, and 3. I suggest you add a trade period 4. Also for that same pull-down list, it should state "Please select a period" instead of "Please select a trade"
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/25/2019 10:01:29 AM
Module: 210101e
Version: 21.0
Page: All
Comment: This 21010e Pipe Trades Codes ILM has many problems, it is surprising it got past the initial validation stage. The biggest problem is, this ILM does not have the same Objectives nor Outcome as the course outline (CO), and therefore is not aligned. An ILM author should not be allowed to change the Outcome nor Objectives as they see fit. Only the PAC is authorized to change Outcomes and Objectives. It is the ILM author’s obligation to align with the PAC developed CO. This ILM has way too much detail about codes. As a representative of a training institution, I was invited by AIT to the PAC committee meetings when the common first-period CO was developed, and this process started about five years ago. One representative was invited from each training institute and all four pipe trades PAC’s were represented at all meetings: gasfitter, plumber, sprinklerfitter, and steamfitter. I distinctly remember all four PAC’s stating this Pipe Trades Codes subject should not require students to memorize or know any details about any specific codes. For example, sprinklerfitters were adamant they didn’t want to have their students be required know the details about B149 or ASME BPVC or other codes that don’t apply to them. And other trades had similar concerns about codes that didn’t apply to them. This is also why there were only 3 hours allotted for this subject. I can assure you the intent of this ILM in the eyes of all four PAC’s, was to give a brief overview of codes. E.g. definitions of codes, standards, and differences between codes and standards. Plus to be aware of some of the codes that apply to piping that is relevant to all four trades, but only at a summary level. The PAC’s suggested the ILM subject be named “Introduction” to codes, but that word was rejected by AIT. I hope these comments help guide the authors to the PAC’s intended content.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/11/2019 2:49:04 PM
Module: 210102gA
Version: 21.0
Page: 52
Comment: In objective two exercise, the questions 1 through 6 all come from some info that was deleted in this new version of the valve ILMs. Check old ilm 070104hB (version 4- page 11, newer version maybe on different page) for the information on "Receiving and Installing a Valve". It should be re-inserted and then the questions 1-6 would be fine, or remove questions 1-6. My vote is to put the info back in, as it was pertinent and valuable.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/11/2019 2:53:48 PM
Module: 210102gA
Version: 21.0
Page: 37
Comment: Figure 53 – Offset disc butterfly valve No longer shows the correct image, needs to be changed. (It was correct in the last SF/PF ILM on valves) On Page 37 Figure 50, it should be titled Weir-type diaphragm valve
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/11/2019 2:45:49 PM
Module: 210102gB
Version: 21.0
Page:
Comment: Table of Contents: under Objective Four, Objective Four Exercise reads Objective Three Exercise Page One: Objective Three reads Objective One Page 11: Objective Three Exercise reads Objective One Page 33: Objective Two Exercise Answers are actually the answers for Objective Three, and are repeated in the Obj 3 answers, so the answers for the 13 questions from Objective Two in 210102gA are not there.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/11/2019 2:50:25 PM
Module: 210102gB
Version: 21.0
Page: 1
Comment: Fix the pagination so that table 1 will be on the same and opposing page as table 2, and it will make the learning easier and reduce the frustration caused by having to flip the page to use table 1.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/11/2019 2:51:55 PM
Module: 210102gB
Version: 21.0
Page: 23
Comment: second last paragraph: It would seem to me that CSA could be considered a domestic standard organization.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/11/2019 2:54:42 PM
Module: 210102gB
Version: 21.0
Page: 34
Comment: Objective Three Exercise answers: re-number from 1-8 and delete the ninth response as it is duplicated from the previous answer.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 1/24/2020 12:47:44 PM
Module: 210102h
Version: 21.0
Page:
Comment: At one time in our ILM’s, concerning the subject of hanging and supporting pipe, there was a couple of paragraphs that really outlined one of the key learnings for that subject. It is important enough that it should be re-inserted somewhere; near the front as an introductory or as part of a summary in 210102h Bolting and Fasteners. ***Static or Dynamic Loads*** One of the factors considered in the choice of fasteners for a specific job is any force acting on the fastener that could cause it to fail. A fastener that would be used to do nothing but withstand a constant force acting in one direction is said to have a static load. The hook carrying the weight of a picture hanging on a wall would have a static load. Fasteners used in piping systems are usually designed for dynamic loads because the pipe is constantly expanding and contracting due to temperature changes. Vibration from pumps or equipment impose dynamic loads on our fasteners. Changes in pressure inside the lines cause dynamic loads through pressure thrust. Most of the fasteners used to anchor or support piping are designed to withstand dynamic loads. Some commercial epoxy adhesives are available with dynamic load rating.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/24/2019 9:08:12 AM
Module: 210103bB
Version: 21.0
Page:
Comment: Other than mentioning the cutting attachment on page 21, objective 4 is not discussed at all, nor is there any info about proper cutting techniques, kerf lines or anything else that was in the old module for Oxy-fuel cutting. Missing a lot of important information.
Status: Approved for Review


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